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So much error - so little time. Let me simply say this. Kangen water has been in use by hospitals and doctors in Japan for over 35 years. The equipment is officially classified as medical equipment there. The Japanese are the longest living nationality on earth. We in the US are #38. Either the Japanese have been fools (although they are long living fools) or the author of this article is mistaken or a liar with an agenda. I'll let you figure it out.

You are being intentionally misleading. The 'approval' by the Japanese simply means that they have approved that the equipment is not dangerous. They are not in any way shape or form saying that Kangen water has any health benefits, they are just saying that the equipment itself will not harm you. Furthermore there are many reasons that Japan might live longer. There culture, exercise, and diet, are all far more likely reasons than one 'miracle cure'. I have a feeling you have more of an agenda than I do.

There are a lot of crazy claims about "Kangen Water" and those claims make legitimate ionizer companies look bad. As noted above: You can't ionize water! However, the minerals in it can be ionized. When you ionize the minerals in water, you get their hydroxide form, which is good for you. Here is a study ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14703901) which proves that you can get useful amounts of essential minerals in your diet from alkaline mineral water. The study also shows the water pH determines which minerals you will get from your water: You absorb minerals like mercury from acidic mineral water (pH < 7) You absorb minerals like calcium from alkaline mineral water (pH > 7) However, $4,000 for an ionizer is a scam! You can get a decent ionizer for a lot less than that. Ionized alkaline water is NOT medicine! It is merely water with a beneficial pH balance, and essential minerals in it. It will NOT cure all diseases, but long term use of it is associated with good health.

"You are being intentionally misleading." No, I am not misleading at all. "The 'approval' by the Japanese simply means that they have approved that the equipment is not dangerous. They are not in any way shape or form saying that Kangen water has any health benefits, they are just saying that the equipment itself will not harm you." Wrong! The Japanese Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare of the government of Japan has certified Enagic as a manufacturer of "medical equipment". Enagic also holds 3 ISO awards including environmental and quality awards. No other ionizer manufacturer can say that. "Furthermore there are many reasons that Japan might live longer. There culture, exercise, and diet, are all far more likely reasons than one 'miracle cure'." I agree! But, given the fact that an association of over 6000 doctors has endorsed this equipment; that many hospitals have been using this technology both externally and internally for patient treatment as well as cleaning and disinfecting; that Enagic has 3 ISO certificates; that Enagic is the only ionizer manufacturer with approval from the Water Quality Association (WQA); wouldn't you agree that it is just hard to accept the unsubstantiated claims that it is a scam and a hoax. "I have a feeling you have more of an agenda than I do. " I do have an agenda. It is to tell as many people as I can about the benefits of drinking alkaline, ionized restructured Kangen water. FYI, I first learned about ionized water over 2 years ago when the company that I distributed for decided to come out with an ionizer. I had no earthly idea what that was and began to investigate. Thought I should know something about whatever it was that I was going to have as a product. After 6+ months of research I came to three conclusions; 1) my company's product was garbage; 2) there were a lot of ionizers on the market and they all targeted only one specific brand to attack and/or compare themselves to and that was Enagic, and; 3) although not the cheapest, the Enagic equipment was by far the best value on the market. As a result, I purchased an Enagic SD501 even though it cost me more than $2200 more than my company's machine would have cost after my commissions and bonuses. I have one last question. Which ionizer company are you associated with?

Please, because you have bought into the kangen water scam, please do not assume that anyone who disagrees with you is from another competitor. Ionizing water is easy, and done by many companies. it is simply pointless. Your stomach acid would immeadiately negate that. Also your body is kept within a narrow Ph range and to change that would be dangerous if not fatal. The Kangen water machine which costs about $4000 is a total scam and the company itself will NOT back up claims made by any user. It specifially denies that it (the company) makes these claims and that any statement by a user is NOT a statement by the company. Why? If this water is able to do all that, why must the company seperate itself from the statements of its proponents? Because they would be sued by all those who have discovered that it will not cure any disease and will not make it so you can come off of medication. They (the Kangen water company) doesn't want to be sued when thier products fails to live up to its hype. Get real, please. NO water is a miracle cure like kangen and its competitors claim.

All I can say is that the Kangen machine helped me with my cancer. When my breast cancer came back three years ago I purchased an Enagic SD 501. I cannot have chemotherapy anymore because my heart was damaged when I had it before. I had cardiomyopathy and was on a wheelchair for 2 years. It took almost 10 years for the cancer to came back because I was doing the alkaline diet (vegetarian, fresh vegetable juice , organic produce etc.) When I stopped because I got tired of making the juice my cancer came back. When I heard about the Enagic Kangen water I purchased it right away. I was drinking the water for one month and a half then on the day of my surgery the X-ray technician could hardly find the lump because he said it is so small. It had shrunk from about an inch diameter to only 1 cm. I also have a friend who had a colostomy and was given only 6 months to live but now she is cancer free and the colostomy was reversed. She was drinking the Kangen water for about 6 months and now she is well. Both of my case and my friend diagnosis are medically documented and can be verified. It is really true that cancer cannot survive in an alkaline environment.

Consumer August 24 2011 ...Ionizing water is easy, and done by many companies. it is simply pointless. Your stomach acid would immeadiately negate that. I AM NOT YELLING. JUST WANT TO DIFERENTIATE MY TEXT FROM YOURS. CONTRARY TO TV COMMERCIALS AND COMMON MISCONCEPTION, YOUR STOMACH IS NOT FILLED WITH ACID WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO DIGEST. ACID IS PRODUCED WHEN FOOD IS INGESTED, NOT BEFORE. WATER DOES NOT TRIGGER THAT RESPONSE. Also your body is kept within a narrow Ph range and to change that would be dangerous if not fatal. THAT WOULD BE THE BLOOD, NOT THE WHOLE BODY. BLOOD pH IS 7.35-7.65 OR YOUR SICK, NOT DEAD YET. ...the company itself will NOT back up claims made by any user. CORRECT!! AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY ARE SCRUPULOUS IN WARNING DISTRIBUTORS ABOUT CLAIMS AND TESTIMONIALS OF CURES SINCE SUCH ARE ILLEGAL. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW STRICT THE LAWS ARE, I CANNOT TELL YOU THAT THE WATER WILL CURE THIRST SINCE (TECHNICALLY) THAT WOULD BE A MEDICAL CLAIM AND ILLEGAL.NO water is a miracle cure like kangen and its competitors claim. NO ONE DOING BUSINESS CORRECTLY WILL CLAIM IT IS A CURE. WE WILL, HOWEVER, TELL YOU THAT IT HELPS CREATE WITHIN YOUR BODY AN ENHANCED ABILITY FOR YOUR BODY TO HEAL ITSELF. BTW, I DO HAVE OVER 100 PAGES OF SCIENTIFIC STUDIES, ABSTRACTS ETC SHOWING THE EFFICACY OF ELECTRICALLY REDUCED WATER (ERW AS THE SCIENTISTS CALL IT) OR AS WE CALL IT, KANGEN WATER. IF YOU WANT IT ASK ME AT GREATKANGENWATER@GMAIL.COM

> ACID IS PRODUCED WHEN FOOD IS INGESTED, NOT BEFORE. This is flat out wrong. Have you ever taken Advil before and had a stomach ache? This is because one of the side effects of Advil is that it decreases the mucus wall protecting your stomach, leading to the acid to eat away at your stomach wall, causing stomach pain. You are recommended to eat before taking Advil. If stomach acid only existed when you ate there would be no reason to eat before taking Advil! > THAT WOULD BE THE BLOOD, NOT THE WHOLE BODY. BLOOD pH IS 7.35-7.65 OR YOUR SICK, NOT DEAD YET Once again, completely false. Your cells would die either through too little or too much oxygen if their pH goes higher or lower than a very narrow range. There is very little I can do besides say that you are either mistaken or lying. There is no way for you to smear information when all of your points are factually incorrect.

Other states on September 19 2011 "There is very little I can do besides say that you are either mistaken or lying. There is no way for you to smear information when all of your points are factually incorrect." Ditto! to you. There is something you CAN do! Rather than calling me a liar you could read some of the scientific literature. I offered some. Check out some facts before you accuse someone of lying. As I see it you are a skeptic. Are you an honest skeptic or a dishonest skeptic? An honest skeptic says,"I doubt. Show me the evidence." A dishonest skeptic says, "My mind is made up. Don't confuse me with the facts." BTW, about your Advil "evidence"; The Advil can damage the stomach lining. Then, when acid is produced it can further harm the damaged lining causing a deeper lesion which may be painful. I would not suggest taking Advil. It is much more dangerous and less helpful than Kangen water.

I have looked up the facts, and they very clearly say something different from what you are claiming. Here is one very obvious FACT that should disprove your entire argument: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid-base_homeostasis If you try to claim that Wikipedia is not a valid source I will respond back with tons of medical literature that VERY CLEARLY STATES that acid-base homeostasis occurs naturally in the body and your body goes through great lengths to ensure that it is always at a proper pH. I am curious how you are going to claim that kangen water is good because it balances pH when your body very clearly does this on its own! Maybe you are the person who has their mind made up?

I APOLOGIZE IF THIS DUPLICATES A POST DONE MOMENTS AGO. I BELIEVE I FORGOT TO ENTER MY EMAIL ADDRESS SO THE PRIOR POST MAY HAVE GONE DIRECTLY TO THE DUMPER. I WILL TRY TO RECONSTRUCT IT HERE. RATHER THAN TRY TO REFUTE THE “SCIENTIFIC” ARTICLE FROM WIKIPEDIA, I WILL CITE INFO FROM THE WIKIPEDIA PAGE ITSELF. FROM THE FIRST PART OF THE ARTICLE THERE IS THIS WARNING: This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (December 2010) FROM THE SECOND PART OF THE ARTICLE THERE IS THIS WARNING: This section does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (December 2010) ‘NUFF SAID? BTW, YOU HAVE NOT YET TAKEN ME UP ON MY OFFER OF 100+ PAGES OF REAL SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. IF YOU DO READ THEM, TWO THINGS WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN: #1 YOU WILL NOT FIND ANY WIKIPEDIA TYPE WARNINGS; #2 YOU MAY FALL ASLEEP SEVERAL TIMES. ;-) REQUEST THE DOCUMENT AT GREATKANGENWATER@GMAIL.COM

I drank Kangen water for 2 days. I've never felt so sick in my life. Continuos migraines & nausea. I am super healthy, 47, no medical issues. I just simPly tried it from a friend. I feel like I need to go to the hospital & get an IV or have a blood transfusion! Someone said something about the high ph that can make you sick. Help.

I drink alkaline water and am very satisfied with what it has done fir me in my life it is very refreshing and the best water i have ever drank: It cleared up pink eye before the high levels of PH are just great for energy. It helped to raise my I&R numbers a few years ago when i was very sick and needed a blood transfusion. It enhances the flavor of coffee and is overall very healthy. I have a lot of friends who drink this water and enjoy it as well so for there is no scam to drinking and purchasing alkaline water.

I have been drinking Kangen water off and on for 2 months now and can tell a difference when I am not drinking it. When I first started it sent my body into a major detox, I had flu like symptoms and well as upset stomach the first few days. Also, before starting to drink Kangen water I was already drinking 8-10 bottles of water a day and constantly felt bloated from it. With Kangen thats not the case I drink on average 4-5 Quarts a day of it and never feel bloated, you cant tell me that Kangen water doesn't absorb any quicker than bottled water. After a week of drinking it, it had flushed my system out and I started noticing having more energy through out the day VS when I didn't have it to drink. I have yet to buy a machine simply due to cost but I have a close friend that owns a machine and he provides me with as much water as I want. I have done a lot of research on this because in the beginning I was very much a skeptic and would laugh anytime the subject of Kangen water was brought up, but after drinking it for myself I am now a firm believer in it! I use to take Prilosec and TUMS throughout the day to keep my acid reflux in check. Kangen water has completely eliminated my Acid Reflux, I have not changed my diet in any way, and I no longer take any medicine for it, unless I run out of Kangen water then it flares right back up. I will be purchasing one though as soon as I get my finances in order!

I saw my sister in law acid reflux disappear, she was allergic to cats, no more my friend fibromyaglia under control and her energy is back and she can function now. I gave the water ph 8.5 to my 12 year old dog and she moves now like she is 5. Yes the Kangen ionizer machine is $4,000.00 but that's, the Deluxe machine SD501 the one that gave you different kinds of Ph 2.5, 5.5, 11.5, 8.5, 9.0, 9.5. and its the best but you can buy a perfectly good Kangen machine for as low as $1,300.00, my friends bought those. I am a believer because I experience it and I saw people around me get better, because the water let the body heal itself. What ever it is, works!!!!!!

Having owned one of these machines for over several years, due to my mother purchasing it, i can say that i was never told anything about alkaline water until more recently. Does it work? Maybe, I've somehow felt better i use to have migraines and they went away and i used to get sick all the time but it doesn't happen as often as it used to. I have however asked a chemist what his opinion was on one of these machines and he said unless it is a de-ionizer it's a scam. So to sum it up it works well does help your body in certain ways( not with balancing Ph because your body does that on its own)but if you're really looking to get "pure" water get a deionizer because Kangen will not work as well

My Kangen water machine is the BEST investment I have ever made in my life. Do you want to pay for your health now or later? One never loses by choosing excellence. Don't take my word for it. Kangen water is available for FREE so try it for yourselves. Direct experience is much more valuable than reading something on the Internet, the equivalent of a bathroom wall.

My Kangen water machine is the BEST investment I have ever made in my life. Do you want to pay for your health now or later? One never loses by choosing excellence. Don't take my word for it. Kangen water is available for FREE so try it for yourselves. Direct experience is much more valuable than reading something on the Internet, the equivalent of a bathroom wall.

The Kangen water is a blessing not a scam....I have been drinking the water for two years...the reason why people have a negative report on this water is because they are drinking the water incorrectly. I was told about this water at our local pharmacy and was given written instructions how to drink this water. For example...some people that are selling these machines don't have the right information to educate the buyer and so it becomes a scam. Yes, the water will get you sick, if you drink the wrong PH level, because your body has to get use to it...first time users start at the PH Level of 8.5 ...so your body goes through a detoxing stage, depending how acidity you are. You might experience some headaches or diarrhea and you do not drink any type of juices or sodas why you are drinking this water...because these drinks are highly acidity. You stay on the 8.5 for one month and then you move to the next level, which is 9.0, then you wait a month , then you move to 9.5...I do not drink any sodas or wine or juices in my diet any more.....my skin looks ten years younger, (57) my age, because the water hidrates your skin, I have more energy and being so acidity..... I was very lethargic. My Arthritis has gone away and I feel awesome. If this is a scam, why does Suezane Summers the actress endorse the Kangen Water...and why do I see people in Palm Springs, Rancho Mirage, Palm Desert, CA have these machines in there homes. I don't have a machine right now, but I know the Lord will bless me with one, and you are wondering how I get my water. There's a health food store that has the commercial Enagic machine and sells it fresh out of the machine for a good price. Cheaper then a six pack of any soda. Get your facts straight..Loma Linda Childrens Cancer Center has a machine..this is not a Scam..this water is a Blessing !

To the poster above, from what I know, that health store is violating Kangan's policies by selling it...

I was a reluctant user. The water made me sick at first. I quit after a week. Like somebody else mentioned, there is a reason for this. Some people that are very sickly like I was need to start out slow. Thank goodness I gave this "useless" water a second chance! I started out drinking a very small glass every other day and it took me 6 weeks to get from the 8.5 to the 9.0. The toxins started coming out! Note: I did NOT change my diet on purpose to see if the water would really start to detox my body. After 6 weeks something quite disgusting and amazing happened. I started passing worms in my stool. This phase lasted 2 entire months! I passed a few worms, eggs, and started passing rubbery type stools which as I read on the internet found out is sludge that sits in your colon from eating processed foods etc. The same type of effect will happen from a natural diet over time. Kangen water or alkaling water is not the only way to do this BUT one needs water everyday. Why not drink water that has alkalinity in it? It is the same a juicing greens etc except you don't get the fiber. One other thing that was proven with my Kangen experiment was that I have had a lifelong problem with dehydration in the sun. I have had heatstroke several times and once so severe my body had turned limp, I couldn't use my limbs. I recently moved to Phoenix which scared the heckout of me because of the intense sun here. I spent my first heatstroke -free summer last year keeping hydrated with nothing but Kangen water. It hydrates, gives you energy, detoxes and I should know as I drank regular water for years :) and it didn't prevent heatstroke no matter how much I drank. It isn't the same, it is not a scam it just seems that way to someone who doesn't understand health, detox, alkalinity/acidity. Before you accuse or judge I challenge you to try it with an open mind. I was very reluctant to try it and poo pooed it as well. I wanted to prove it wrong but will never drink anything else now.

I have suffered from Hives for 3.5 years. I have been to many doctors who have no solution, reasons or has been any help to me what so ever. I drank this water for two weeks, initially my hives were worse, but knowing that things get worse before they get better I continued to drink it. last week was the second week and not once in 3.5 years have I ever had my montly cycle without a bad case of hives until now. Hives are not easy to deal with and to be rid of them is a blessing. Secondly, my dog has cancer and has been undergoing chemo, about two weeks ago she totally quit eating for 6 days, I was thought I was going to have to put her down. I tried every kind of food and she would not eat anything. I thought about the water, so about 7:00 Wednesday night I gave her the water and she loved it....by 3:00 the next morning she was eating and she is doing great. I have spent a lot more than $4000 on meds, test, doctor visits, etc. in the last 3.5 years and it's a small price to pay to have comfort in your life without feeling like you are coming out of your skin every other day. Not to mention that the only way to keep them under control was taking steroids which have deadly side effects. Thanks for making my life better!

I have a Kangen water machine too, and I love it. I have fewer aches and pains, better skin, and I am not constipated anymore. I had a lesion on my leg which would not heal, and the water finally cleared it up. I use it in my restaurant; it definitely improves the flavour of some foods, and the water is wonderful for cleaning veggies. It's a lot of money, but I use the machine constantly.

I too bought into the Kangen water claims and paid alot of money for all the hype! There is no documented proof of any health claims and just he mere fact that the company will not stand behind any of the claims made by the distributors. Also, I bought my machine because of the claims of "going green" without the use of any dangerous chemicals. But I soon found out that Enagic uses a harmful chemical called "sodium hypochlorite" as an additive to its ionizer to make the strong alkaline and the strong acidic waters. It is called an electrolysis enhancer. Now, the people selling these machines will tell you that this is safe to use when in fact the sodium hypochlorite is a corrosive chemical and it is commonly know as "bleach". The people selling these machines also tell you to use these waters in cooking and cleaning and that it is even safe to gargle with the strong acidic water! Since I had been trying to drink the alkaline water and use the other water as suggested, I have had severe headaches. When I stop using the water, the headaches go away. Prior to using this water, I had never had headaches before and I consider myself to be a very healthy person and do watch what I eat and exercise regularly. In doing my research on alkaline water, I did find out that our bodies do not need this high alkaline water as the blood will always seek to maintain a Ph level of 7 which is normal. When you try to offset that balance, the body will tell you that something is wrong. Now I know there are claims out there that people have been healed by drinking the alkaline water but yet, no doctor has any documented studies of proof of such claims. I wasted alot of money only to find out that I should have done my homework first before buying into the hype and trusting people that I thought knew what they were talking about. What this business is about is multilevel marketing and making money. Not about keeping people healthy and teaching them to stay healthy! So don't waste your money on an expensive ionizer!

Just curious, Those of you above who tout the benefits of the K water system, how many also sell the machines? Also, if a person is healthy, drink good water, eat healthy foods,exercise, would they still need this machine? I feel like if this machine is necessary at all, it's because we in America are so unhealthy and we are constantly trying counter balance some junk we put in our bodies with other stuff. What happens if a person's PH is pretty well aligned already and they are drinking a lot of alkali water? I think if any of this is to be given consideration, a person should look up health studies of people who eat healthy natural foods- like indigenous populations in South America. I know people say "just try the machine yourself before making judgements" If this machine works, I believe it's our diet which makes us need it. For those of you who cannot find a machine to sample from, try this: Go on a healthy diet (you know what that is, look it up if not-lots of greens), drink good water (you know what that is too) and exercise and after 3 weeks do a self check of how you feel.

As a consultant to a couple colleges with several friends in both science and chemistry departments, I've tested kangen water. Depending on the machine and how it works, there are different resulting water solutions, all with about the same effect. If the machine uses salt to ionize the water, it comes close to forming NaOCl, a weak version of what we commonly call BLEACH. Thus it is obviously good for cleaning things. Aside from that, obtaining a positive alkaline solution from neutral tap water(which was used by the person I got the samples from, Enagic brand btw) is impossible without adding some other minerals. When you try to ionize 7pH water there is nothing to happen from eloctrolysis. On the other hand, in many areas of the country water is already alkaline(pH of 7.5-8.5) but not so much that it will cause pipes to clog over time(low pH causes corrosion). In those cases why pay thousands for tap water to be ionized to the same state? Also, it is impossible to make water "microcluster". Ask a local chemist why. In fact, go to any high school science teacher, or college professor. Don't say anything about kangen just ask if you can microcluster water, or ask if high pH water affects the body. Most of this is simple science people! From my experience of knowing regular kangen drinkers, they didn't drink a gallon or more water everyday before going on this craze. Drinking lots of water has the same effect whether it's alkaline or pH neutral. A final point. Look up the success rates of placeboes... usually around 40%! If you believe it works, good for you. So do sugar pills(I've personally done studies on that in college). Faith/hope is powerful medicine, but isn't worth thousands of dollars. Drink some lemon water, or vinegar...or take some alkaseltzer to raise or lower acidity. For that matter, put a little bleach in a gallon of water and drink that every day. All are cheaper and have the same effect. Just believe that and you'll find miracles!

Kangen water is real amazing The water apparatus such as the SD Series, SD501 (one of them) is actually certified as Medical Device which none of the similar products have ever been certified! So amazing is this medical device that the saying is true, "Change your water...change your life!" and revolutionize your lifestyle with this kangen water... Why don't you visit www.kangen-water-wellness.com to discover the amazing facts about kangen water. I personally experience kangen water do wonder to my health! You can enjoy this health too... Remember kangen water from Enagic has now survived for 38 years.

If it cured/treated all the things claimed, it wouldn't be so controversial. There is no cure-all for all that ails us. Wishing won't make it so.

I have been drinking the Kangan water for about 6 weeks. I get it from my chiropractor free. I feel like it is easier to drink because you can drink more but not feel bloated. I hate drinking water. It gags me. But I can drink a gallon of Kangan water at a 9.0 PH. I can't say it has helped me with any of my joint pain, constipation, or eczema. I don't know whether to buy a machine or not. I have read all of your posts and both sides make convincing arguments. But my gut tells me to stay away from anything that is a pyramid scheme, whether it works or not. To me, that diminishes their credibility.

yes, you are all both right! positive and the negative comments. bottom line, both of you all guys lack the proper ultimate knowledge about what a real true alkaline machines should be in order to be in the superior level so you can avoid these some negatives from other users. try to find a lower wattage machine that will do high -ORP with good ph of even up 10ph as long as the water taste is still smooth and no after taste. what i mean an -ORP of even up to -700ORP or more as long as it has the quality taste of smoothness. low wattage like less than 100-watts. that is the machine to go. then find a distributor or a seller that will backup his claims about his water, what ever it claims by it can go to extremes that it will also do can combat all these toxins and no diet and exercise lifestyles. remember that saying of garbage in and garbage out! do a proper balance on that, by all means you will be alright and outlive a lot of people out there making such claims w/no extreme walks but just talks. why not lets all put all to extreme by an all out eating challenge. eat the most high cholesterol foods w/ no diet and exercise, everyday. yes, it must be to that extreme and may the real winner be the real honest truth and nothing but the truth. am i getting my point here now? if this extreme eating challenge can still protect you with your type of water, then that is the water i want to drink. then, lets all go to his water and believe him. soon someone out there will put up a challenge to all these alkaline water machines or alkaline water producers a simple high cholesterol eating challenge. and may the best truth comes out alive and still healthy. hehe. then that for me is the best truth i will believe. am i getting my point to you all smart intelligent guys w/c i know you are all and very respectable persons. but in due respect, check first if your machines specs fall under to what said. low wattage, high -ORP, not pH and a more descent no after taste. then the final test! put the user or seller into a test by treating him or offer him a free all high cholesterol eating challenge everyday until someone's pocket drops dead or the eater himself. lol are you all getting the point now? this, will end all these arguments. i just do't not see anything else to suggest that will provide a much more non-confusing information to the public except putting these machines and sellers or users into an extreme final test. i know someone will provide you these true facts and will not only talk about it but will dare to do the walks. if you know what i mean? so anybody out dare will take the extreme challenge? a very high cholesterol food eating challenge? i have a contender that will take that kind of challenge. i just want to provide the right strong claims and information to the public. end of story. if you want to hear more facts about this challenge and true facts fully backed by actual challenges, email me at soipsave@yahoo.com. don't worry, i won't be selling you an alkaline machine. hehe just will give you the actual facts that i can not say it hear in due respect to all of you guys. we are here to increase and not to decrease. so don't waste your money anymore future buyers out there and will cry after. no offense! just a simple advise to avoid more confusions accumulating in the future for poor honest sickly people out there, all wanting is the truth and nothing but the truth. thanks and God bless you all.

One thing that really bothers me is the kind of people who fight something for the sake of fighting, with no regard for facts or evidence. when the foundations of one of your tenets are shaken or even disproven by facts and you continue to fight just to prove the other person wrong or to avoid being proven wrong, one can safely assume that finding the truth is no longer the goal. The body is a complex organism and there is a lot of data out there on how it works, some of it true, some of it false and most of it written in 50% english-50% latin which makes it even harder for the layman to understand. I have read many books and articles on health, diet and nutrition and I thought I should comment on a couple of things I found in the posts here. Alkaline water will not neutralize your stomach acid as it isn't in your stomach all the time, it is secreted (see Wikipedia article on "Parietal Cell"). Also, most vegetables are alkaline and I have no problem digesting them. Your blood is alkaline (7.35-7.65) and has to stay in this range. Your body will do whatever it can to maintain this healthy range. If your blood starts to get to acidic your body will "steal" some alkaline calcium from your bones to bring the pH back up. If your diet is continually on the acidic side, you will eventually end up with Osteoporosis as a direct effect. I'm still doing research on Kangen water, but I do know that eating an alkaline diet is more healthy and beneficial. That's from personal experience.

Quit blowing your money on stupid "Miracle-product" pyramid schemes! I wish I had back all the money I blew for being so desperate, gullible, and stupid! I could use the money to make a down payment on a nice house!

Just want to see if I could help those people who has problem from Kangen, or someone who is suffering due to misrepresentations that the Kangen is medical device or a supplement for medicine. Please let me know .

That scam resolved my diabetic condition and improved my kidneys (I was also diagnosed with kidney disease). The chronic pain of my diabetic neuropathy went away as well the chronic back pain I suffered from the 10 buldging discs in my back, the result of 2 car accidents. My bad knee joints improved (arthritis in one of them). Let's see, what else? I lost weight, my skin cleared up and I was able to get off of most of my medications. I foresee having to stop taking the rest as well. Bottom line for me? I do not care about the science behind it. About 9 months ago when I was offered the water, I was in very bad shape. I was a big water drinker anyway so I figured what have I got to lose? I just drank it. I did not care about the science. I cared about by diabetes and kidneys on the decline. The price. I wonder what eventually going on dialysis would have been, not just financially, but on my life? Or my diabetes which was out of control, oh and the chronic pain I suffered for years. My children have spent the last number of months watching me transform and cannot believe it. I may not know the science but I do know this. If people with cancer, diabetes, etc, figure out that by drinking this water their conditions improve the pharmaceutical industry will not be happy. Hey, this cost less than a funeral......Like I said, I was a big water drinker. This water is different.... All I can give you is my testimony.

Why do you need to use a machine to balance your PH when you can eat foods that are low in acid instead? I thought about purchasing a Kangen water ionizer and feel what is trying to be achieved through a $4,000.00 product can easily be achieved by eating foods low in acidity or higher in alkaline content.

Sorry to join the discussion so late, and I'm enjoying the banter. I would like to add a fact or two that may help settle the discussion. Acidity in the body is caused by dehydration (hence, the push to sell a water product). But you don't need any specialized alkaline water to correct the pH balance. Any kind of water (other than distilled) will do the same thing. The key is to drink enough to keep the body properly hydrated and avoid soft drinks, coffee and other beverages that promote dehydration. Advil may cause an irritation in the stomach, but if the person was properly hydrated, it wouldn't. Acid reflux is the result of a water and salt deficiency. The pancreas has two other jobs besides producing insulin. One of these is to produce a bicarbonate solution to assist in breaking down food and also to neutralize the effects of stomach acid. But it needs the proper "tools" to work with - water and a little salt. Ionized water does nothing more than plain ordinary tap water. The body doesn't use "ionized" water in the cells - it can't. The water needed in the body has to be fresh water that it can move to and use in any part of the body, wherever it's needed most. Kangen water and any other kind of "ionized" water are scams - live with it. Period.

I am a T-12 paraplegic...18 yrs post injury. Ive ben drinking the kangen water from 5gal jugs for about 20 days.. Im not sleeping any better..still wake up several times a night. A soar on my right big toe that has been there for so long i dont know how long...has ALREADY healed. I believe its from the water 100% ps (I always drink lots of water before) paraplegics have to to keep bladder and kidneys healthy. My urine IS better...seems clearer, not as much sediment. (i use a leg bag) I no longer have sleet or eye snot in the mornings at all. Like i said i always drank lots of water..just as much as the kangen..these seem like suddle differences but they are differences. My bowels arent any better ...yet. My diet is pretty healthy..my wife is Japanese and is vegan...I eat her food but sometimes have a little meat on the side. I notice i dont get bloated when pounding a huge glass of the water... My face feels,seems cleaner. I may have lost a couple of pounds (i'll check) I dont nod off at the computer nearly as much! Thats the biggest difference ive noticed..sometimes i would have to fight to not nod off and microsleep but not anymore. I m,ay still feel tired but im not nodding off. and i can type much faster...like synapses are firing faster...its pretty cool :) I dont sel the machines but did just buy one...a platinum 501..still waiting for it to get here. These are just my observations on the subject. Oh, the place we are getting the water now..the man has a custom set up with a 501...he adds oxygen to the water and some minerals... a 8k option..but eh Enagic 501 is a must. it is just the best machine you can buy i think. So 20 days.. Hopefully i can write back again in the future and see whats up. Thanks for everyones time! ps, i may have missed some benefits while writing this..

This is obviously a BAIT for Enagic distributors. Folks, don't fall for it! The author is trying to trap us into making medical claims. Remember, the drug companies profit by keeping people sick. Anyone who has ever drunk the water knows the truth. They also know that we give it away for FREE so anyone who buys a machine does so by choice. Look up Electrolyzed Reduced Water (the technical term) and you will find tons of research. Also Enagic's certifications are proudly displayed on their website. Case closed.

I don't believe in miracle water, simple as that.

Eat healthy. Exercise. Pray. Jesus didn't drink Kangen water. We are always looking for a solution to our health problems. We will die eventually. If you want to feel good in the mean time... Eat healthy. Exercise. Pray. Also DON'T DRINK BLEACH.

Boy the people who want to discredit the Enagic people sure got to great lengths to do so and the people who simply want to tell their story are jumped on ! I don't sell the machine although I would if it was not so hard to make people part with 4K. I say 4K because I would not have one that did not make 2.5ph. This is why the industrial machines and the 501's are in such demand. this water at 2.5 can clean veggies and meat of the worst problems such as well, anything that makes you deathly sick and cleans even Mursa (?) that now plagues hospitals here and in Japan. And all the claims that it will help you and sometimes rid your body of a multitude of problems seem to be true. I have had several problems that it helped significantly reduce or eliminate. Like I was a week away from having an operation on my hands to help stop my inability to use my hands for typing (arthrititis and carpral tunnel syndrome). Pain was significantly reduced after a week or so of drinking the water (actually almost instantly) and after a few months I could type again. Also other things like severe back problems not completely eliminated but reduced quite a bit - so much that it just could not be placebo effect.

If Kangen water was a scam, how can you explain people who are drinking it, are GETTING BETTER. Explain that, explain how my best friends sister with stage 3 bone marrow cancer patient, is now cancer free after 6 weeks on the water, explain how my friends doctor personally told her to get off her insulin after 25 years of using insulin for her diabetes? Please explain that! All these people was and is drinking Kangen Water, this is the only thing they have changed in their life style. Explain to us how much were you paid to say all these negative things about Kangen. I hope one day when you are sick you will remember Kangen water can save your life...

Read about the scam in detail, its an overseas company exploiting elderly customers in the USA via a MLM marketing force of independent sales people. None of these people are affiliated with the company: http://www.alkalinewaterionizers.org/consumer-reports-why-are-kangen-water-ionizers-so-expensive/ They only get a commission check when they make the sales, and since there is no over watch or regulation they make any claim to make the sales in order to get the commission checks.

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